Qmi just can't contain themselves, no matter who is seeing their groping and cuddling XD And oh, I love that gif 8D Kyuhyun is such a magical ninja XD

And umm I think I've seen that video or a part of it but I'll watch if after finishing my fic. But yeah, I think it's amazing that the other's are there for Zhou Mi and Henry, supporting them when the "fans" can't do it. It's so nice.

And pffft, most of my Qmi pr0n is top!Kyu even if I'm more into top!Mi XD I think this teacher/student fic is my second top!Mi. But then again, my fics aren't that good so it doesn't count really e__e And I'm too loyal to my OTP to write Geng/Mi or Siwon/Mi XD MiMin is the only exception and even then Kyuhyun can't be mentioned in the same fic or I can't read it XD /goes back to writing

They're meant to be and magically drawn to each other at any given time! It's true love! ("truu loov~" *sings*) Oh and I love the gif too, Kyuhyun is awesome 8D

I've seen some videos like it, and possibly that one too, but it popped in my twitter today and I re-watched it. I love how they're all supporting each other like one big family :)

Of course yours count! Your p0rn fics are good! And hey, I write you top!Mi in turn so I think it's not a bad deal XD And in general, out there, 90% of the Qmi porn has top!Mi. I have weird Geng/Mi fetishes XD And Siwon/Mi would be nice occasionally even if I'm not very passionate about it *laughs* Mimin is so sweeeet~ Oh Kyuhyun can't be mentioned? Even if it's Qmimin? 8D

They're like human-sized magnets x) qmi is very much true love 8D Kyuhyun was born that way, there's no helping it 8D

I've seen this one with close focus on Qmi and HeeMi on it, but nothing else, I guess. I love it too, it shows that all the Only13 thoughts are only in the delusional fans' heads :)

Pfft, I wouldn't say that XD Haha, works both ways then? XD I like reading top!Mi more but I think writing top!Kyu is easier. Yeah, nowadays Kyuhyun usually bottoms very religiously. I know this one author who writes loads of Qmi porn but it's almost always top!Mi and it sort of gets boring after a while XD Kyuhyun wants his turn too! I have noticed XD I don't really like Siwon/Mi, it just... I don't know, lately I haven't really shipped Siwon with anyone XD MiMin is sweet, yes 8D Oh, if it's Qmimin, yes, but if it's like... KyuMin are friends or broken Qmi or something, I can't do it XD I just read this one good MiMin fic and I would've liked it a lot but Zhou Mi and Kyuhyun were exes in it (even though best friends) and it just bothered me too much XD

I had this theory that they're magnets and I explained it in deep physics x) I had more theories like that too, chemistry is full of Qmi XD

Exactly. It shows they're a family and those fans can shove their stupid opinions and prejudices into their asses. They're idiots anyway.

I would. I like your fics a hell lot! Porn or not XD It's a good deal then *laughs* I find writing top!Mi easy but I prefer reading top!Kyu. So we can feed each other fics XD I really love Qmi even when Kyuhyun bottoms and there are some super hot porn fics that way, so I'm not saying I have anything against that. But when it's almost all the time I do want some change :/ Kyubb wants to show his manliness too *laughs* Uhm can I ask which author? Honestly, I don't like Siwon/Mi as much as I used to *laughs* I had a thing for it and I still wouldn't mind reading some good smut, but as a fic with an actual plot... nah. Not really interested x) But Geng/Mi? Oh I could kill for good Geng/Mi 8D There is some chemistry there, and I can't believe no one sees that. I don't like Mimin with Kyuhyun in a big role either x) That's the only thing that bothers me in Geng/Mi too, since then if there's mentions of Kyuhyun I get all funky about it *laughs* It's so hard to break Qmi XD (like the Heemi I'm writing? painful XD) And I think I know which fic you mean (am not sure though) and those things always bother me so much XD

Haha, sounds like a good theory! x) Even the laws of the nature ship Qmi! XD

So true. It annoys me when fans bitch about it and say that "but Leeteuk said 13 forevahhh ur argument is invalid" because yeah, maybe he said it once, long time ago, before HenMi came in the picture. Now he and the others say it because the fans would go apeshit on them if they even mentioned Forever15 or whatever. Have you read this one fic where Heechul hangs this Only15 banner outside their dorm windows and Leeteuk almost has a heart attack? It was cool x)

Haha, that makes one person, then XD And thanks. We can just keep writing each other stuff and be happy XD It's like living in symbiosis! I love it both ways (... taken out of context, this probably sounds pretty great) but yeah, there is so much top!Mi it sort of gets stale :/ Kyuhyun has needs too, yes! Umm, coley_merrin, I think you know her. She's really good, and even her non-smut fics are good (like the Mi!merman fic she posted last night, oh god ;___; How is anyone that brilliant?) but it's pretty much only top!Mi D: I think I had a fling with Siwon/Mi, but then it sort of died out and I went back to Qmi XD Geng/Mi has some potential, really, but there is like... none. Yeah, I think it's like that with all of my other Kyuhyun and Mimi pairings x) Mostly MiMin and KyuRy *laughs* Why do I just intership those four? XD I ship all variations of Kyuhyun, Zhou Mi, Henry and Sungmin except the most popular ships, KyuMin and ZhouRy/HenMi XD Except I think HenMi is getting less and less popular *cheers* It's just... no. They're brothers and all, but the idea of them even kissing sort of makes me cringe XD There's a lot more KyuRy going around lately, but then there is Mimi in all of them and DNW :( Qmi is hard to break, yes XD (I can believe you XD) Umm, it was this thing where Mimi was a model and worked for Sungmin and Kyuhyun was apparently with Kibum e____e That also made me not like the fic that much XD

haha I've read that fic and it was epic. I think they're just in a very bad situation. Leeteuk (or anyone) can't go all pro15 publicly and start bitching at the fans since it'd be a social suicide. It doesn't mean they support the only13 people though. And one can see how they are friends, all of them.

I'm sure there are plenty more x) haha yes, we can work like this XD Symbiosis sounds good! It's like a new species. (haha good we both know the context XD) Even the best things kind of get boring if there's too much of it :( Oh yes, I know her. I love most of her fics but she has a few misses too x) I'm sorry to say but one fic I read from her was downright bad. Usually they're amazing though and the merman fic, gosh, I loved it! ;___; It annoys me too, though, how 99% of her stuff is top!Mi. But oh well, better than nothing.

haha so we both had our Siwon/Mi moments but it went away? XD I still could read some if it pops up but I'm not sure if I'll write any like I planned once XD Geng and Mi were getting along so well, they're both Chinese, Geng said that if Mi is sad he comes to him to talk, and so forth. There is potential but no one sees it ;___; I CRY. MY LIFE IS SO SAD.

I pretty much agree with you there! I don't mind Henmi if it's written well but usually it's just stupid or they're the... täyte-pairing when they are leftovers and need someone. So it's easy to stick them together. And Kyumin is just no no no. There's probably more genderswitch Kyumin than regular Kyumin D: I read this one fic with Qmi and Kyury and I didn't like it :( It was well written yes but it made me all uncomfortable and ugh. I felt so bad for Mimi. Oh and then it's the same fic. I ...liked it but it still bothered me? x)

It really was. Yeah, it must be really hard for them, too. Like think about Kyuhyun, Heechul, Ryeowook or Sungmin, who are clearly very close to Zhou Mi and/or Henry. Didn't Sungmin post some cyworld entry some time ago, where he very carefully said something about hoping that fans support and accept Henry (and Zhou Mi)? I think it was really brave of him and it proves that they all (or at least most of them, I don't know about Kibum or Kangin etc. who haven't been with them that much) really think they are a part of the group.

Maybe x) It's a good, never ending cycle XD It does! (Yeah XD) True, especially since I really think Qmi is the kind of pairing that isn't stuck in their roles. I really like her style and all, but hmm x) I think some of her fics are very repetitive, especially the longer ones. It's always the same, where they bump into each other by random coincidence and start having sex just for the sake of it, and Zhou Mi hopes for more but Kyuhyun, being the emotionally detached person he is, acts like it's only friends with benefits even though secretly he's all in love with Mimi and then when he's just about to confess or something, Zhou Mi has to go somewhere and Kyuhyun is all "he doesn't love me after all </3" or thinks he doesn't want to drag Zhou Mi down and "lets him go" and then Zhou Mi gets his panties all up in a bunch and they get in a fight and they are miserable until one of them searches out for the other and they kiss and make up and live happily ever after. She's a brilliant author, but I just noticed it's always the same plot line :/ The merman fic was a really pleasant surprise, it was really original and even though it had her style, it was still different! Yeah, I'd like it too if there was some top!Kyu. Apparently yes XD I think I tried to read one, but then there was top!Mi in it and I was all "oh hell to the no" and copied it to word and changed Siwon with Kyuhyun XD *shot* True, there is so much potential in Geng/Mi but people don't seize that opportunity D: I think it's because of the fairly large HanChul/SiHan/SiHanChul fanbase that pretty much rolls with their OTP/OT3. Yeah, exactly! I think it's like... you know, because there are all the other OTPs and HenMi are those 13+2 so :/ Then they are paired together just because. I've noticed the same thing! D: It just drives me nuts, seriously. Sungmin is a goddamn man, why do you have to make him a girl? He's also probably more hung than half of the people in SJ. I just get the impression that all those people don't actually like homosexuals, but because it's their idols (and they don't want to see them with other girls) they just pair them up and because they get turned off my the idea of two guys getting at it, they make Sungmin a chick. Hmm, I think I saw it around but didn't want to read it :( Ah, okay. Yeah, it was nice, but just... It would've been good without Kyuhyun in it x)

I don't know about that cyworld entry but it sounds like something Sungmin could do. And I don't think Kibum and Kangin have anything against Henry and Zhou Mi either. They might not know them, but they're not stupid or cruel so I don't think they are judging or opposing.

Exactly and that is one of the things I love the most, that Qmi isn't set in strict roles! I always fall for the pairings where the dynamics can change and there can be variety :D True, some are very repetitive, and sometimes her way to describe things gets overly poetic, kinda. And you're right, it's always Zhou Mi hoping for more and Kyuhyun being a jerk and then end of story where he figures out his errors XD It sounds mean but that's true.

I read a few Siwon/Mi fics but those were almost always bad :/ And god I bumped into top!Mi fics too with a REALLY dominant top!Mi and Siwon being like a kicked puppy and I went all o____O and no. Just no. hahaha I should've done that too and changed Siwon into Kyuhyun XD I'm still so sad there isn't Geng/Mi around ;___; If I wasn't so busy writing Qmi I'd give it a go *laughs* I have one Gengmi fic but it'll turn into Qmi x) You're right, it's probably the Hanchul/Sihan/etc fans. Those pairings are so strong and so canon that it's impossible for poor Mimi to squeeze in ;___;

That's true. And it pisses me off SO BADLY when people write "pairing: the otps! :D" since gdi it's like there'd be some sort of a law that they have to be paired a certain way >:/ I might be overreacting but IT DRIVES ME INSANE.

SUNGMIN IS A MANLY MAN. Stop making him a girl, people D: He has such a bulge too *laughs* yes. But people apparently want het and they apparently need to write him a girl. I agree with you, they need het-fic and they just use the guys to turn one into a girl. Which is so stupid.

AND AS YOU CAN SEE I'M POSTING YOUR FIC. Already managed to log in on the writing journal XD

I saw a translation of it on tumblr, but I don't know if it was from cyworld or what x) Oh, me neither, but I don't know about their stance in the whole 13/15 thing, that's all. Like, of course they must approve of them, but idk if they think they should be in the main group. They must be the ones feeling threatened of it, if anyone is, since some fans are worried HenMi might replace Kibum and Kangin *eyeroll* Thought idk, if Kibum doesn't drag his butt back soonish, stuff might happen.

Exactly. Even though Mimi is more feminine (not girly, but feminine) and a bit spazzy, he is masculine too and clearly a man x) Just because he's a very stereotypical gay man doesn't mean he's Kyuhyun's girlfriend. And well, "asking who's the man and who's the woman in a gay relationship is like going to a Chinese restaurant and asking which chopstick is the fork". So I think that it sort of sucks that in some fics people are so set on the two roles even when I think that most gay relationships with sex go both ways :D I know I would prefer to be in a relationship where I can just be myself, not "the guy" or "the girl" of the relationship. I like to take people on dates but I also like to be the one taken out. People shouldn't be so stuck on gender roles! /end of rant e__e Mimi looks like he can fuck anyways and I'm sure Kyuhyun appreciates that too *laughs* Oh yes, that too. Sometimes her sex scenes are sort of... More like a scene out of some smutty novel for women and are pretty prose-like. It is! XD Although I've only read her R/NC-17 fics, so maybe the others are different XD Even good authors make mistakes, and some people just get stuck in their style of writing x) I sometimes feel like I'm that way too *laughs*

True, there aren't many good ones :/ That happens a lot, with many Zhou Mi pairings, when he is made into this... super dominant, almost cruel person in the relationship e__e I think it's just how people fantasize him to be, you know. Because he is so sweet and smiley irl, so maybe a lot of people like to imagine that he is the total opposite in bed, all "bitch, on your knees and suck like you mean it"? XD I've spent too much time analyzing this too XD I think it occurs with some people, especially with smut fics. Ryeowook who's sweet and innocent is made into a total whore with a dirty mouth, Sungmin who's the same is either slutty or a total beast in the sack, Zhou Mi is dominant and rough, Kyuhyun who doesn't listen to people and is "rude" is really submissive and a whore for cock (or like, you know. He's like a kicked puppy in bed and bends backwards for the top's will even when they are making him eat his own come). Or then he is the game nerd with bad skin turned into a sex god. Sometimes I hate the fact that I read so much into people and try to analyze them XD And I totally trailed off the topic. But yes, you should've XD I don't ship them that much, but I could get into it if there was more around :( HanChul and SiHan shippers are too loyal to their OTP.

Same for me! That's actually how my two friends who got me into SJ/k-pop explained it to me. "They are the OTPs, you know, the "true" and "real" pairings everyone ships" and I sort of understood it as "you are supposed to ship these" so that's why I started shipping KyuMin, EunHae, HanChul and KangTeuk in the first place. Then I grew a mind of my own and now I don't really ship any of those :D

Le sobs, my comment is too long again :(

So I'm continuing it here.

... I think HanChul is nice, to some extent, but I'm sort of turning into a SiHan shipper too :( But I think KyuMin, EunHae and KangTeuk are just so... forced, you know? All the touching and I love yous and all. And excluding hardcore KangTeuk shippers, who seem very rare, those fans are mostly delusional, annoying, bash other ships, think their pairing is the OTP of all OTPs and will cut your throat for saying they aren't actually in love. I mainly started disliking EunHae because of the delusional, batshit fans :/ EunHae is so clearly fanservice but the fans are idiotic enough to go all "NO THEY ARE REAL GTFO HYUKKIE SAID HE LOVES HAE THEY ARE MARRIEDD!!!121" and can't see past their biasedness. For example, when Eunhyuk and Donghae wear the same coloured clothes within two weeks = "omo Hyukie and Hae are so dating ^^" like er, what? Or when they are in a picture together "omg so married" or when Donghae looks a bit sad in a picture "he must be missing Hyukkie!!1". No. And I won't even start with KyuMin because no one needs to hear that XD But it annoyed me that the shippers started talking of "KyuMin's honeymoon" when they were working somewhere together or something :|| /end of rant again XD

He is D: Like, he knows martial arts and has big biceps and a big bulge and and :( Just because he's pretty and likes pink doesn't mean he's a freaking girl. Most likely, yes. It just makes me pissed off when I see those authors and then their a/n or warnings go like "gender switch!! i'm sory, i just like gender switch so much ^^<3333". Just no. If you go all "no homo" upon the thought of two guys as much as kissing (because most of those fics are pg-13), stop shipping them together and go ship something like HaeSica or whatever.

YOU DID 8D

...so yes I think I said already in the previous comment that I'm kind of turning to a Sihan person x) I can't help it, they're just so sweet and touchy and all! They're super-adorable together ;~; But I know what you mean. It's so obviously acted out. And I don't doubt their friendship, I bet they're really close! But not in a sexual way at all. That's so familiar to me, in the Diru-fandom there are the same batshit and delusional fans and those people ruined two pairings for me completely :/ I had to laugh at some of your examples, oh god, how ridiculous!

Your example A/N made me laugh too, oh god, it looks like such a typical thing! I don't know if I should laugh or cry. There are plenty of girls out there to pair with the guys! They could even write the guys paired with themselves or their friends or something. But no genderwitch nooo D:

YES I DID! 8D

you did x) I'm starting to like SiHan more too, especially after watching these old SJM shows with Geng still in them. They are just so ;A; Yeah, they're like bffs, but nothing more. So the fans annoy me with their delusional, shippy bullshit. I feel your pain, since yeah, I could like EunHae and maybe even KyuMin, just for fun, if it wasn't for their shippers. But they are so true! XD And the biggest thing that annoys me is pictures where people stand next to each other Not even touching, talking to each other or standing close to each other. Just next to each other in the same picture. I saw this one picture of Kyuhyun at an airport, and Sungmin was standing behind him, maybe three or more feet away. I would've wanted to reblog the picture because Kyuhyun looked so good but all the comments on it were like "omg, KyuMin", "oh, I deem this as a KyuMin moment ^^" and I just thought that I will not reblog a post with forcibly searched "troo luv~" when it's just a normal picture of two people at an air port. I know I tag pictures of Zhou Mi and Kyuhyun as qmi even if it isn't particularly skinshippy picture, but I just tag them because they are in the picture. If it was kyuhyun and Siwon, I'd tag it WonKyu. But I hate it when people see a picture of them, not even interacting, and suddenly it's a magical little KyuMin moment because Sungmin is ttly looking at Kyuhyun even though his gaze are nowhere near Kyuhyun.

It's pretty much something I've seen around XD There are! Even though I personally like Super Generation pairings like the plague, if you ship them with girls, there are nine pretty ones right there. Plus Kyuhyun is often shipped with Victoria from f(x) even though I have no idea why. I think some people ship her with Zhou Mi too, but those two actually do hang out with each other so I can sort of see it. Even though I'd never ship Mimi with any girl, for obvious reasons. Okay, guilty as charged, I read some fics where Kyuhyun and Mimi are both girls, if it's well written but it's a different thing. In them, it's not because you think het is the way to go, but because you want to be a creative author. Or something. But otherwise, no genderswitch.

And now I should go and comment it finally XD

Exactly! In the SJM shows the two are always so ...I dunno, close? They seem really close and although I know Siwon's a huggy and touchy person, it's mostly directed at Geng. So definitely bffs! I don't think I'd like Kyumin even without the shippers XD It's such a ...forced pairing for me, kind of, and I can't see how it'd work as anything else but the two of them being best buddies x) And yes I know what you mean! Sometimes even Qmi pictures have comments that make me go all "...not true" since if they're just standing there it's not like they're proclaiming their true love to everyone XD But Kyumin people are so much worse with it! They think it's a SIGN FROM GOD to have them in the same picture or same interview or whatever. *eyeroll*

I don't like any of those Super Generation pairings either (I can stand some as side-pairings if they're not focused on) but seriously, if you want het THERE IS HET FOR YOU. No need to go changing them into girls. haha I did read some fics where Kyuhyun and Zhou Mi were both girls, yes XD Even liked some but it always still felt a bit weird. But genderswitch CAN work if the plot needs it but 99% of the time authors use it just to write their precious kyumin as a het pairing.

YES YOU SHOULD! XD I'm waiting anxiously *laughs*

Yeah, they are awfully huggy and close and all that XD I think it's adorable 8D I'm not sure, but I think that I could at least tolerate it as a side pairing or something, but now I just loathe it XD I see it as bromance, where they are really good friends and they trust each other, but I definitely don't see any romance there, even in the times when Kyuhyun puts an arm around Sungmin's shoulder or they hold hands. They've slept in the same bed and been roommates and friends since the start so I guess you must grow on each other in those circumstances? But romance, no. Yeah, even with Qmi, and I see a lot of pictures where they are touchy and even then I fully think that it's something not romantic or anything, but especially with Zhou Mi who is touchy, he is almost always touching someone. But I can see past that and the actual things that matter, so I still think Qmi is above other pairings in realness x) Oh yeah, that's so true. It's like "THEY'RE BOTH HUMAN OMG OMG OMG THEY ARE SO IN LOVE", ide.

So true. But I guess it's the matter of not wanting your lovely oppar being with another girl so it doesn't bother them when it's someone from the same band, but as a dude. It's a bit weird, yeah, but I think they're okay. Some genderswitch is okay, in rare cases, but yeah, it's mostly that and that's why I hate it.

I already did! XD

It is adorable! I love huggy people XD And hugs in general. Even if it's people I don't pair together hugging XD I absolutely love the friendship between Kyuhyun and Sungmin and have nothing against that in fics but ...no romance. No. I'm stubborn, maybe, but no XD Zhou Mi is really a touchy person too (almost as touchy as Siwon XD) and that's one reason I love him so much. AND I love how Kyuhyun is so used to it now. Like in the one gif where Mi just grabs Kyu's hand and Kyu doesn't even bat an eyelash! And yes Qmi is above everything in realness XD No one can fake the bond between them.

Maybe XD I don't knowwwwwww. I don't understand people *laughs* And yes some are okay. As are some genderswitch fics. haha and I must tell you, right now Pia and I are writing this one Die/Toshiya fic which kinda has genderswitch XD Die is in a coma and somehow his soul/spirit/whatever can get out of his body and take over other people's bodies and now he's kinda hopping from one body to another and sometimes picks females and Toshiya is frustrated since he's gay and doesn't want his boyfriend to suddenly turn into a girlfriend x)

Huggy people are nice XD Yeah, but bromance hugs are good too! XD Yeah, KyuMin works great as bromance and bbf-ry but nothing else. Touchy!Mimi is one of my favourite things on earth 8D It's so nice how he touches Kyuhyun and Siwon and Eunhyuk and Sungmin and pretty much everyone. Oh, I know that one! Usually Kyuhyun seems so awkward with touching, like in Variety Big Brother where the host hugged him and Kyuhyun just bent forwards a bit and tried to keep touching at minimum. As an awkward hugger myself I can read a lot from touches and how people react to them, so I'd say Kyuhyun is a bit reserved with who he touches, so I think it's really nice that he's so relaxed around Zhou Mi x) Qmi is just such a beautiful fairytale romance XD

People are weird and work in mysterious ways. Some are fine, but most aren't. Haha, but there is a point there, it's a part of the plot, and not just something like... Sungmin is a girl because no homo.

Bromance hugs can be the best! I love their friendships, pretty much all of them, so if it's just a frienship fic I can read anyone in it x) But as romance I'm horribly picky XD Oh I know what you mean. Kyuhyun seems like one of those persons who get natural with touching only when they kind of allowed the other person to get into their personal bubble x) So not strangers or anything. Qmi is awesome, I can never say it enough!

AND DONGHAE WHY ARE YOU SO ADORABLE AND OH GOD STOP MESSING MY BIAS LIST. AND SUNGMIN GO AWAY >:( and yes I still am watching the DVD, obviously XD

Did you ever notice Kyuhyun has a tendency to put his hand between his legs when he sits? x) As I said, I'm still watching SS1 and they're sitting while singing now and Kyuhyun again looks like he's cupping his crotch. I noticed the same in the Boys In the City 3 DVD. And in ...like a million other places XD Kyuhyun wants to protect his goodies! AND WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT AGAIN!?

It's hard to say anyone's real opinion on the whole 13/15 thing since it's not like we can see in their minds and they won't talk about it openly. But seriously, SJ hasn't been 13 in SO LONG now. And they never will be again. Unless someone else leaves and Zhou Mi and Henry join in which makes them 13 again but not the original 13. So those people should move the fuck on.

Being feminine doesn't make one a girl, nor even gay x) But people seem to miss it so often. I don't mind when they joke around with it, using words like girlfriend and so as long as it's clearly a joke. I don't think Zhou Mi would kill Kyuhyun is he said he's his girlfriend XD But it's because they both KNOW he's a man and know he can prove it anytime. I like that quote since it's true. Neither is the girl, not if they're both guys, and not even if they're exclusively top and bottom respectively x) I think we all like to be able to relax and not take on a certain role. AND YES. Her sex scenes are sometimes like from a bad novel for women OR like from French soft porn (ever watched any? god it sucks XD) or something.

Zhou Mi can be dominant, I believe, but I doubt he is that dominant. The fact that he is able to take control and fuck Kyuhyun doesn't mean he'd be mean or cruel or sadistic in any way. It's probably true that people try to make him the complete opposite of how he seems to be. Lol at "bitch, on your knees and suck like you mean it" though XD I've noticed the other examples you pointed out too. haha I had to laugh sometimes when someone wrote that Kyuhyun is an insecure virgin and the next second he rips off his shirt and turns into a pornstar XD I SHALL WRITE GENGMI YOU JUST SEE AND YOU HAVE TO READ IT THEN! >:/

Oh god how annoying! True and real pairings my ass. Especially when none of them even seem plausible! Seriously, Qmi seems a million times more real than those and I'm not even being delusional when I say it XD I hate Kyumin, I do, although I'm sorry I do :( I read Eunhae occasionally but basically no. Hanchul is nice, I like it, but I'm kind of liking Sihan more (even if Becky would kill me for that now XD). Kangteuk is fun, kinda, since it amuses me how they can be made into the mom and dad of the group but I don't think there's anything real to it XD

I am kind of laughing at you a little bit right now XD But in a friendly way! ♥

True, true. Yeah, unfortunately it is very highly unlikely that Han Geng will come back, and I almost hope he won't, for his own sake. So yeah, unless Kibum finally fucks off for good and HenMi join the main group, those fans can keep hanging onto a number like blind fools and ignore the feelings of the people behind those numbers.

Yeah, it's pretty much just the stereotypics speaking. Then again, nowadays it's sort of turning into this... Like, if someone is a stereotypical homosexual, people will be all "but he's just fashionable and takes care of himself!!" and it's almost as if it's criminal to even assume that someone like Zhou Mi is gay, even though the stereotypics exist for a reason. Many people who seem like stereotypical homosexuals are gay, but yes, not all x) Zhou Mi is too nice to kill Kyuhyun, no matter what he says XD If it's a gay relationship, there is no woman and man in the relationship, yeah x) They are! Even when some fic is rated nc-17 I feel like I sometimes get pretty bored with the sex scenes since they can get like that (haha, no I haven't, sorry XD).

I feel the same way. I think he's dominant enough to keep Kyuhyun in the line and take the lead in their relationship but not like overtly so. Yeah, but I think it's just because people find it a turn on, someone turning out to be the complete opposite of their usual self in the bedroom *laughs* It was meant to be funny XD That happens too, yes XD You know, we could write so many cliche crack fics it's not even funny anymore. OKAY, I WILL READ IT D:

Yeah, but you know, what would you expect when the other one is an Only13 and the other was just getting into SJ too. Qmi is way more plausible than any of those and I'm not being delusional either XD I always say no one should get all bitchy over pairings but I hate KyuMin too, so much D: Mostly because of the shippers who annoy the fuck outta me, but still. EunHae is bearable, but eh. I'm on the same line with HanChul, even if they used to be my OTP. Yeah, I think it's just for fun with them XD

Pfft, okay then XD

Honestly, I'd say that the probability of Geng coming back is as high as me growing wings and being able to fly. He's not coming back, not now when he's doing fine with his own career and with the way he was treated. I'm just kinda afraid others will follow the example and go too :/

True x) It's so weird! Some people think being homosexual is somehow better than being heterosexual, too. While I can't see what the difference is (except, you know, the obvious XD). What people like to do inside their bedroom is their own business as long as it's not illegal and hurting someone. Zhou Mi is too nice to kill a fly XD But he has other ways to punish Kyuhyun I'm sure 8D True x) Sometimes she just repeats herself way too much. (Me and my brother wanted to watch the Biker Mice From Mars but we couldn't get the VHS player working so we watched French soft porn on TV XD it was bad)

He knows how to do it, of course he can play Kyuhyun as he wishes XD He's a clever person! I guess so, but I think it turns kind of boring eventually x) Besides, the Dir en grey fandom is (or was XD) full of that kind of thinking too so it's EVERYWHERE. We could, and I kinda wanna write one huge cliche fic with everything squeezed into it *laughs* AND YOU'D BETTER LIKE IT TOO >:(

haha true, true. Thankfully I was introduced to the group by someone who isn't an only13 at all. She knew she'd get me hooked just by flashing a few smiley pictures of Mi XD I try to be tolerant and like as many pairs as I can but some ...are just not for me. And Kyumin is one of those.

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I agree with you. He was getting so sick under SME, he was treated so badly, and if he came back, SME would treat him even worse. It's better for him this way, being able to do things his way and be healthy. Mm, yes, that's true :/ But I think they just redid their contracts? Or at least they said they would. I don't know.

Oh yes, I've seen that too! Sometimes it just goes that way with defending minority groups, that suddenly they are lifted above people not inside that group. Or you know, I can't really explain it, but you know. Yeah, I don't think there is a difference, we're all people. Yeah, I pretty much roll with that too, I think things are okay as long as neither (or no one) is being hurt and both are equal in the relationship and all. He's too scared of bugs to probably kill any kind of a creepy crawly XD Oh yes, I'm sure of that too 8D I think a lot of authors fall for that, getting stuck in their style x) Even though they are good, it's just all the same, which is unfortunate. (Oh, okay then XD I believe you XD)

Haha, true XD It does, yeah, and sometimes it's really over the top x) You're right, yeah. That just reminds me of the crack fic I told you about in Paris XD With every possible thing stuffed in one. I WILL, I PROMISE D:

I was sort of introduced to them as "13+2", I guess. So at first, I kept calling them "Henry and Zhou Mi of SJM" but once I got to know them better, I started thinking of them as members of SJ. I don't think I could have been an only, even if my friend had pushed it on me. It's not in me to hate people for petty reasons like that. And Henry stole my heart almost immediately anyways, so XD Some pairings just don't go down with me either. Idk, I think I could read Kyumin as a side pairing or something, just generally tolerate them even though I just ship their bromance a ton, but the shippers have made me loathe the pairing so much I will read nothing that has KyuMin even as a hinted pairing. And all Kyuhyun and Mimi pairings that aren't Qmi, Kyury or Mimin are also kind of no no.

It is better for him yes. Even if I do miss him awfully lot sometimes when I see old pictures or videos and know he's not coming back :( I don't know, and I don't think they'll go anywhere, except for maybe... Kibum? x)

That's annoying too. My brother always says that he isn't a homophobe, he's a homofanphobe since he hates it when some people think gays are miles above heteros. I have some friends like that, actually, who think a romance is beautiful if it's two men in it but otherwise no and I'm always all "o___O WHY" since I think love is beautiful no matter what. Gosh I think I'm stuck in the same way to write too and I probably write the same crappy thing over and over again but... I don't know any better :(

haha I remember the crack fic and I had such troubles trying to keep up with the plot while you explained it XD I don't think I'd do anything THAT epic (and confusing) but some kind of a crack fic would be fun x) YAY! 8D I made like... a dozen gengmi icons today 8D *shows one off*

I think it shows something about a person when they don't hate those two just based on something stupid like that. We're good people XD I don't read even hinted Kyumin either, unless it turns into Qmi when I might be able to get through it x) You know my love for Geng/Mi XD Otherwise I agree.

I miss him too, especially after I watched EHB and some SJ Full House :( He is such a wonderful person and he fit SJ so well, I hate it that SME had to go and ruin it for everyone. Yeah, Kibum is a mystery since no one knows if he really will be a part of their 5th album. I don't know. I really like him but I'm sort of starting to get annoyed. He's been gone so fucking long, if he doesn't come back this year, when? I do love him, but I'm losing my faith in him :(

Oh yes! Actually, especially in this whole Japan fandom I was in actively, I saw so many of these annoying teenage girls who were all "boylove <33 ^^" and somehow they were, you know. Homo fans. They are the people who read any manga, if it had BL in it, no matter how shitty it was and would be all "awwww boy love is so cute ^_^" and tbh, I find it infuriating. Hey, I'm not straight and I write slash but I still find it annoying how some people think homosexuality is "cute" and somehow better than heterosexuality. And with most of those girls, they just think boys kissing is sooo cute but if it's girls doing the same, it's not. I even once at this forum saw some girl commenting "I don't understand why old people are gay, it's gross :( They should just be gay when they're young and cute and then become straight when they are older :P" and it was one of those moments when I really wanted to break someone's nose. Those kind of people who just fangirl cute boys kissing but gag when there's two older men or women holding hands or something are repulsive and aren't supporting gay rights in any way. Sexuality is not a trend, it doesn't make you a better person. It's just a part of who you are, and it angers me that some people don't see that. There are good straight people, there are bad gay people. Your sexuality doesn't make you the person you are. If you say "love is love", then stand behind that statement and don't just say "boys kissing is cute", but "all love, man/woman, woman/woman, man/man, whatever you identify as, is beautiful". Argh, this subject just makes me so angry XD But you don't, you have a very verifying style! You most definitely don't write the same thing over and over again, trust me :)

I had trouble keeping up with it even when I read it XD It would, yeah x) Oh, that's nice 8D

It's nice to be a good person XD Same here, I just can't stand Kyumin, really x) Haha, true XD

I still didn't watch EHB and FUll House XD Everyone keeps on recommending them but ...I dunno. I should! And I want to but yeah. Somehow it didn't happen. SME seems like such a nazi-place. I have no other words for it :/ Kibum is just... I don't know. Gone? Is it that he doesn't have any interest in it or is it that he was gone so long it now is like he's not really a part of things and it feels weird? I don't know. But it annoys me too and he should either leave for good or come back. This isn't good for anyone, this waiting and going back and forth.

Oh exactly like that! These homofans are so annoying and they make everyone look back. Like, if I say I read a gay romance novel people instantly assume I'm one of those annoying teens who read/like it because it's in fashion or something. While that's not it. I read straight romance as well as gay romance (not in fanfics though, never liked hetfic XD). AND OLD PEOPLE IN LOVE IS SO SWEET. Seriously, if they managed to stick together through thick and thin, through everything life threw at them, it's beautiful. No matter if it's a straight couple, a man-man couple or a woman-woman couple. And old people need love as much as everyone else does! You're so right. Your sexuality does not define who you are. In the same vein, I don't know if I already complained about it before but it annoys me when some people write in their livejournal profiles in huge blinking letters "I AM GAY" and that's the first thing you know about them. I always go all "...so what?" at that. It's not like this is some sort of a dating-service where people need to know your preferences before they know your name.

I can imagine! XD I am kind of proud of it :D It's my favorite of the ones I made. Here's another 8D

haha yes. We're so good.